As for it being a token female role, it’s all a matter of how the movie is. Like all genres, the comic book adaptation has a mixed record in the realm of female characters. While the out-and-out female superhero lineup is embarrassingly slim, being the female lead in a comic book film doesn't automatically doom you to tokenism. Compare the two Hulk movies. Liv Tyler’s Betty Ross was regulated to being ‘the girl’ in The Incredible Hulk, but Jennifer Connely’s Betty Ross was a fully-fleshed out lead character with a life and issues all her own in Hulk. The Ang Lee drama spent a large amount of time with Betty Ross in moments where Bruce Banner isn’t around, which is the test of a full-blown female character. Alas, an even more valid contrast exists with the two Rachel Dawes character in Nolan’s Batman pictures. In Batman Begins, Katie Holmes is not the love interest so much as Bruce’s conscience and moral compass, a character with a strong point of view who moves the story along as a result of her compassionate morality (she was the Leslie Thompkins of that particular universe). Alas, in The Dark Knight, Maggie Gyllenhaal was basically the prize to be won between Wayne and Dent, and then relegated to a woman in a refrigerator. There are other bright spots. Pepper Potts’s generally platonic relationship with Stark in Iron Man 2 was the best thing about that misfire, as she was an equal and confident, someone who Stark trusted to call him out on his bullshit and keep him honest. She wasn’t ‘the girl’, but a fully-fleshed out supporting character.
As for the Raimi Spider-Man films, they are at heart romantic dramas. The primary story IS the courtship between Parker and Mary Jane. Her issues and problems and character arc is about as important as Peter’s (less so in the overrated second film, where she IS mainly a prize). There may have been web-slinging action and super hero fights, but the overreaching arc was a slow-building love story between nerdy outcast Peter Parker and abused child/would-be actress Mary Jane. To Raimi's credit, there was never any attempt to make Mary Jane a 'tough chick who can hold her own in the thick of battle', but instead gave Kirsten Dunst a three-dimensional character to play. Her role was especially beefed up in the somewhat unfairly maligned Spider-Man 3 (in fact, some of the criticism from male critics came from the large amount of screen-time devoted to Mary Jane's personal issues).
If this new Spider-Man reboot really does end up as an adaptation of Ultimate Spider-Man, then Mary Jane/Gwen Stacy will be every bit the ‘lead character in her own life’ that Peter Parker is. The Bendis books, at least in their initial years, focused even less on big-scale action than the movies, to the point where it was genuinely shocking when someone was murdered. If this new film is firmly planted as a character-driven teen romance with as much webslinging as $80 million can buy you, then there is no reason to assume that whomever gets the co-starring gig with Andrew Garfield will end up with little to do but bat her eyes and scream for her life. We’ll see…
Scott Mendelson
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I prefer Pepper in the first Iron Man, I think she did get stuck in "girl" characterization in the second one. But yes, I actually think MJ is best in three (I admittedly don't like Kirsten as Mary Jane -- who is one of my favourite comic book characters of all time). And I love what you sa about Rachel Dawes, thank you!
Good thoughts here. I'm having trouble caring about the new Spidey movie (Raimi's second is my favourite comic book movie of all time) but I certainly don't want MJ, or Gwen, to be turned into the token girl!
It all depends on the script, of course. But the low budget ($80 million!!) and constant references to Bendis's Ultimate Spider-Man seems to indicate that it will be a character-driven teen romance, meaning that the female lead will have a relevant role in the proceedings. As for Iron Man 2, we'll have to agree to disagree. Welcome to the site, I hope you stick around.
I do hope having Webb as director could help flesh out the characters (specially female characters).
Coming from 500 days of Summer, I believe the guy can handle female characters that are as interesting as the lead male.
As always, we'll see.
At about the same as I read your Spiderman post on Huff Po, I had also just finished reading Deadline. Did you happen to see there the article titled, 'Paramount's Open Casting Call for Tweens'? To me this was further illustration of just what the studios are expecting from most actresses these days, tweens and adults alike.
Martin - It's funny you say that because quite a few (male) critics complained that Zooey Deschanel's character in 500 Days of Summer was some kind of super-villain-ish she-devil, because she dared to not fall head over heals with our young male hero. The very things that made her three-dimensional and interesting were the very things that made so many male moviegoers detest her, if only because she reminded them of a girl they chased even though she made it perfectly clear that it was never really gonna happen.
Also, 'Anonymous', I read that too with a bit of amusement. Paramount claims that want a 13-14 year old female who is 'AN ABSOLUTELY STUNNING NATURAL BEAUTY'. If, after said actress is cast, I call her a 'stunning natural beauty', does that make me a pedophile?
I prefer Pepper in the first Iron Man, I think she did get stuck in "girl" characterization in the second one. But yes, I actually think MJ is best in three (I admittedly don't like Kirsten as Mary Jane -- who is one of my favourite comic book characters of all time). And I love what you sa about Rachel Dawes, thank you!
Good thoughts here. I'm having trouble caring about the new Spidey movie (Raimi's second is my favourite comic book movie of all time) but I certainly don't want MJ, or Gwen, to be turned into the token girl!
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