With countless rumors of script delays, script issues, and a tug-of-war between the movie that Sam Raimi wanted to make and the movie that Sony wanted, the Spider-Man franchise as we know it is no more. Deciding that he'd rather make no Spider-Man film than make a bad one, Sam Raimi has walked off the project and Toby Maguire has followed him. Sony will now reboot the entire franchise, for a whole-new Part One set for summer, 2012. I'm sure we'll learn more about what went down in the coming weeks, but the general consensus was that Raimi was not happy with the screenplay, with the director and the suits fighting over the choice of villains. Among other issues of contention, Raimi allegedly wanted the Lizard, while Sony wanted someone with a human face. All of this squabbling threatened the all-important release date, so Sony made the decision to let Raimi walk and start from scratch. God forbid that the director who made you zillions of dollars be allowed to keep making you zillions unmolested.Considering that the only reason another film was being made was A) money being offered to the participants and B) Sony's attempt to keep the franchise rights from going to Disney, it was frankly surprising that Sam Raimi stuck around this long. He already took a bullet from the third film, when he was forced to include Venom over his objections and then was trashed by critics and audiences over the handling of said 'black suit' storyline. This situation is a moral victory for Raimi and Maguire, and pretty much a triumph for the forces of darkness everywhere else. Sony now gets what it wants, a completely new Spider-Man franchise that it can control from the get-go. Frankly, if this works box-office wise, expect every studio that holds Marvel characters to start their precious franchises over from scratch, in order to avoid losing the rights to the Mouse House. As feared, the new pitch is a 'younger, grittier Peter Parker, dealing with the issues of the day'. Great, so we'll get Spider-Man vs. the Afterschool Special of Doom?
As someone who rather loved Spider-Man, wasn't crazy about Spider-Man 2 (lots of great moments, but Peter spent the whole film whining over a girl that he dumped in the first place) and kinda liked the kitchen-sink explosion that is Spider-Man 3, this is a darn shame. Even at the campiest moments of Spider-Man 3, the franchise was absolutely a series rooted in character development above admittedly top-notch spectacle. Short of hiring Brian Michael Bendis to pen the screenplay for this new Spidey incarnation (which isn't going to happen), Sony is going to have to do some major PR work to get the fans of the previous films back on board. This isn't just about winning back the comic geeks, this is about assuaging the millions of normal moviegoers who liked Spider-Man, saw Spider-Man 2 because they liked Spider-Man, and saw Spider-Man 3 because they liked Spider-Man 2. The original Spider-Man grossed as much as it did because it was good, because it lucked into being the first uniquely American/patriotic franchise to open after 9/11, and because fans and general audiences had been waiting for a Spider-Man movie for twenty-years. Just tossing out a brand-new Spider-Man movie with new people isn't going to have nearly the same impact. I sincerely hope that Sony is aware that spending Spider-Man 3 money ($250-300 million) isn't going to get them Spider-Man 3 grosses ($890 million) for this 'Amazing Spider-Man' reboot. What's striking about this move is how similar it is to the reboot that occurred in the Spider-Man comics just a few years ago. Ask any Spidey fan about 'Brand New Day' and they'll probably stab you in the ear with the closest utensil. Once again, years of continuity and fan loyalty has been tossed out the window on a whim. It will be fascinating to see how this plays out, but I cannot see how this is anything other than a boneheaded corporate power-play. And the idea that you can just reboot any old franchise to settle any dispute between suits and artists is a scary and disturbing one. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney is planning the same gimmick for Pirates of the Caribbean: At Stranger Tides, making a fourth film where Johnny Depp's Jack Sparrow exists in a parallel universe where the events of the first three films never occurred. Can you imagine the precedent this could set? If Warner Bros were so inclined, they could spend the next decade 'rebooting' the Lethal Weapon series, the Matrix series, the Harry Potter franchise, and the Lord of the Rings pictures.
Even for those who had issues with Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy, anyone who thinks that this will lead to a more artistically worthwhile Spider-Man picture is deluding themselves. If Sony won't let Raimi have his way after making them $2.4 billion in global box office, then there is no way they will let whatever director they hire have any creative freedom whatsoever. This is going to be a corporate project every step of the way. The only silver-lining is that renewed interest in a younger Peter Parker may convince the powers that be to renew the wonderfully character-driven Spectacular Spider-Man animated series that has run since 2007. Hey that was just under three years ago, wasn't there a Spider-Man film released just under three years ago? Oh... right.Scott Mendelson
I'm not sure whether I am happy to hear this news. I mean, it's good that Raimi and Maguire won't make a movie that doesn't work for them. That's good, although I will miss their styles, as you addressed.
ReplyDeleteI suppose it's too much to ask that a reboot of the series will work as well as the most recent Batman or Battlestar Galactica reboots? I guess if they can get Chris Nolan to direct, the answer will be yes. Otherwise, I should brace myself for disappointment.
Glad you show support for Spiderman 3. I will never get the fanboy hate for that movie. Yes its cluttered with many a character but its a solid entry in the series. I certainly enjoyed it. Some make it out like its Superman 4 bad. I don't get that and never will. A few years ago I would have said Adam Brody as Peter Parker but even now the studio will probably go younger. Hate to see Tobey go as he was a great Peter Parker.
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Why throw away guarunteed money on the fourth Spidey film with Raimi and Tobey? Give Raimi his freedom, if it turns out great you have a hit. If it fails, (it'll make money) but then you have a perfect reason for a reboot. I don't see how you lose money by giving Raimi his freedom and making number 4. In fact, it extends the life of the franchise by not pushing a risky reboot so early. What are they thinking?
ReplyDeleteWhat villains are we gonna get in the reboots? Are people ready to see any of the main ones again? Doesn't this just extend the problems they are having with this one?
As someone who wasn't too big of a fan of the Raimi Spidey films...i would rather more than this reboot. They are gonna cast young...and i really don't know any good young talent. I'm willing to bet our next Peter Parker is not gonna be the character on the page...more like:
ReplyDeleteTAYLOR LAUTNER IS SPIDERMAN!
Laugh laugh laugh at me, but this is gonna be a studio controlled film and casting someone like lautner is a studio casting goal.
This is not good for spiderman or superhero movies. C'mon Sony, prove me wrong!
-Brandon
Taylor Lautner as Spider-Man... I don't know whether to laugh or cry...
ReplyDeleteBut rebooting is so pervasive these days that the Honchos gotta feel safe. The Batman reboot, the Star Trek reboot, Battle Star Gallactica... I think that unfortunately your hunch that the younger spidey won't make money is likely incorrect.
Sorry if this makes be a "fanboy," but even if you extract Venom from Spider-Man 3, you're still left with a bored looking Thomas Haden Church mumbling his lines as The Sandman and Bruce Campbell's mugging (again!).
ReplyDeleteAnd those god-awful musical/dance interludes with Kirsten Dunst and Tobey "Saturday Night Fever" Maguire! That one was all on Raimi.
Raimi’s trilogy of Spidey flicks and produced one good, one great and one really bad. But I’ve always believed that just like the original source material, it’s the character, not the talent, that matters most. There are other directors who love Spider-Man as much as Raimi did and damned sure better actors to play Peter Parker and Mary Jane than Tobey Maguire and Kristen Dunst.
I couldn't agree more with Kyle, why throw away money with not going ahead with Raimi Spidey4? The reboots for batman, startrek and battlestar worked because each of these franchises where over and done with for about a decade, with battlestar closer to 3. The wankers at sonypictures should leave making superhero movies to movie makers who are fans and guys like Stan Lee and Avi Arad should be more involved. As an example to see what crap directors or writers go through with studio's check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_%28film_series%29
ReplyDeleteI was a very interesting read.
I hope that sony pulls it head out of it's rear end soon!!!!
NUFF SAID!!!
I couldn't agree more with Kyle, why throw away money with not going ahead with Raimi Spidey4? The reboots for batman, startrek and battlestar worked because each of these franchises where over and done with for about a decade, with battlestar closer to 3. The wankers at sonypictures should leave making superhero movies to movie makers who are fans and guys like Stan Lee and Avi Arad should be more involved. As an example to see what crap directors or writers go through with studio's check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_%28film_series%29
ReplyDeleteI was a very interesting read.
I hope that sony pulls it head out of it's rear end soon!!!!
NUFF SAID!!!
Taylor Lautner as Spider-Man... I don't know whether to laugh or cry...
ReplyDeleteBut rebooting is so pervasive these days that the Honchos gotta feel safe. The Batman reboot, the Star Trek reboot, Battle Star Gallactica... I think that unfortunately your hunch that the younger spidey won't make money is likely incorrect.